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		<title>By: NightWalker</title>
		<link>http://cupholder.blogs.topgear.com/2009/08/28/all-quiet-on-the-western-front/#comment-11061</link>
		<dc:creator>NightWalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty cool blog you&#039;ve got here. Thanx for it. I like such topics and anything that is connected to this matter. I would like to read a bit more soon.

Sincerely yours</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty cool blog you&#8217;ve got here. Thanx for it. I like such topics and anything that is connected to this matter. I would like to read a bit more soon.</p>
<p>Sincerely yours</p>
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		<title>By: Polprav</title>
		<link>http://cupholder.blogs.topgear.com/2009/08/28/all-quiet-on-the-western-front/#comment-10865</link>
		<dc:creator>Polprav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello from Russia)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello from Russia)</p>
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		<title>By: jonnyk</title>
		<link>http://cupholder.blogs.topgear.com/2009/08/28/all-quiet-on-the-western-front/#comment-10797</link>
		<dc:creator>jonnyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 21:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just thought I&#039;d gloat momentarilly and point out that my road tax is £0. That is right - £0.
One of classic motoring&#039;s little &quot;perks&quot;. That and not having to pass an MOT emissions test either!

My first car (I&#039;m 18) is a beautiful, red, 1972 Triumph Spitfire. So while my mates are in crappy Corsas, I am cruising in an open top sports car that cost me £2550! 
It&#039;s reliable - I&#039;ve owned it for 2 months and done over 2000 miles with no problems. Its been to Glastonberry, Wales and the Isle of Man!
It&#039;s comfortable also. Nice leather seats, decent sony stereo and a working heater!

Why don&#039;t we all own classics?

Unfortunatly, I still pay C Charge and I&#039;m not exempt from £980 insurance. Mind you, the corsa would be £2300 to insure.

To return to the point, timing is a good idea. I drifted into the zone by accident, last month. £8 for the priviledge of half a mile of motoring! Not particularly fair.
GPS isn&#039;t necessary though. ANPR watches us in and out of the zone. Just time us on that.

Which reminds me, since the black and silver number plates are legal for me, do you reacon the camera can read them? Food for thought.

P.S. I tell greenpeace that I release very little CO2 - and it is true! The lack of a catalytic convertor means I release mainly CO - hehe!

Anyway, enjoy your euroboxes. I&#039;m off for a bit of &quot;wind in my hair&quot; motoring tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just thought I&#8217;d gloat momentarilly and point out that my road tax is £0. That is right &#8211; £0.<br />
One of classic motoring&#8217;s little &#8220;perks&#8221;. That and not having to pass an MOT emissions test either!</p>
<p>My first car (I&#8217;m 18) is a beautiful, red, 1972 Triumph Spitfire. So while my mates are in crappy Corsas, I am cruising in an open top sports car that cost me £2550!<br />
It&#8217;s reliable &#8211; I&#8217;ve owned it for 2 months and done over 2000 miles with no problems. Its been to Glastonberry, Wales and the Isle of Man!<br />
It&#8217;s comfortable also. Nice leather seats, decent sony stereo and a working heater!</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t we all own classics?</p>
<p>Unfortunatly, I still pay C Charge and I&#8217;m not exempt from £980 insurance. Mind you, the corsa would be £2300 to insure.</p>
<p>To return to the point, timing is a good idea. I drifted into the zone by accident, last month. £8 for the priviledge of half a mile of motoring! Not particularly fair.<br />
GPS isn&#8217;t necessary though. ANPR watches us in and out of the zone. Just time us on that.</p>
<p>Which reminds me, since the black and silver number plates are legal for me, do you reacon the camera can read them? Food for thought.</p>
<p>P.S. I tell greenpeace that I release very little CO2 &#8211; and it is true! The lack of a catalytic convertor means I release mainly CO &#8211; hehe!</p>
<p>Anyway, enjoy your euroboxes. I&#8217;m off for a bit of &#8220;wind in my hair&#8221; motoring tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: MasteredMatt</title>
		<link>http://cupholder.blogs.topgear.com/2009/08/28/all-quiet-on-the-western-front/#comment-10795</link>
		<dc:creator>MasteredMatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;racking up expense much like a taxi’s meter does, until it hits an agreed ceiling.&quot;
A ceiling agreed by who? Matt? In-line with Matt&#039;s income perhaps?
Matt being on at least 10 times the national average - would be the first complaining.

&quot;if a commercial vehicle spent all day tooling around town honking at blondes, it would be hit up for the full price&quot;
And will the commercial vehicle owner pay this? What a fool, of course they won&#039;t - the end user of the products / services will - so a double whammy on road-taxing for Joe Bloggs then?

&quot;surely it’s a more democratic alternative&quot;
Hmm, and democracy is to be conjured from where?&quot;  The con charge was implemented; despite our so-called &#039;democracy&#039;.

Get real Matt - talk about something you can - cars, keep out of politics - you&#039;re too simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;racking up expense much like a taxi’s meter does, until it hits an agreed ceiling.&#8221;<br />
A ceiling agreed by who? Matt? In-line with Matt&#8217;s income perhaps?<br />
Matt being on at least 10 times the national average &#8211; would be the first complaining.</p>
<p>&#8220;if a commercial vehicle spent all day tooling around town honking at blondes, it would be hit up for the full price&#8221;<br />
And will the commercial vehicle owner pay this? What a fool, of course they won&#8217;t &#8211; the end user of the products / services will &#8211; so a double whammy on road-taxing for Joe Bloggs then?</p>
<p>&#8220;surely it’s a more democratic alternative&#8221;<br />
Hmm, and democracy is to be conjured from where?&#8221;  The con charge was implemented; despite our so-called &#8216;democracy&#8217;.</p>
<p>Get real Matt &#8211; talk about something you can &#8211; cars, keep out of politics &#8211; you&#8217;re too simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikeado</title>
		<link>http://cupholder.blogs.topgear.com/2009/08/28/all-quiet-on-the-western-front/#comment-10738</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikeado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 10:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;All Quiet On The Western Front&quot; - good. I like that you shortened it to Con Charge; that&#039;s more accurate.

I wonder if one could dodge it in this new BMW sports concept - http://www.desktopmachine.com/press/865/BMW_Vision_EfficientDynamics//16433/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All Quiet On The Western Front&#8221; &#8211; good. I like that you shortened it to Con Charge; that&#8217;s more accurate.</p>
<p>I wonder if one could dodge it in this new BMW sports concept &#8211; <a href="http://www.desktopmachine.com/press/865/BMW_Vision_EfficientDynamics//16433/" rel="nofollow">http://www.desktopmachine .com/press/865/BMW_Vision _EfficientDynamics//16433 &nbsp;/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Van Driver</title>
		<link>http://cupholder.blogs.topgear.com/2009/08/28/all-quiet-on-the-western-front/#comment-10730</link>
		<dc:creator>Van Driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C charge did not change anything in terms of traffic in central London. I know that first hand.
There was some stupid idea with GPS road tax or insuirance circulating in papers not so long ago. Maybe person who came up with it was shot and no one dared to get back to idea yet... well untill today.

I am more concerned about bendy buses. So far Boris got rid of 1 it is one. At this pace they will be gone by 2085.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C charge did not change anything in terms of traffic in central London. I know that first hand.<br />
There was some stupid idea with GPS road tax or insuirance circulating in papers not so long ago. Maybe person who came up with it was shot and no one dared to get back to idea yet&#8230; well untill today.</p>
<p>I am more concerned about bendy buses. So far Boris got rid of 1 it is one. At this pace they will be gone by 2085.</p>
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		<title>By: WAT</title>
		<link>http://cupholder.blogs.topgear.com/2009/08/28/all-quiet-on-the-western-front/#comment-10714</link>
		<dc:creator>WAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GPS monitoring.
Public monitoring cameras. 
wat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GPS monitoring.<br />
Public monitoring cameras.<br />
wat</p>
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		<title>By: aunty fusker</title>
		<link>http://cupholder.blogs.topgear.com/2009/08/28/all-quiet-on-the-western-front/#comment-10703</link>
		<dc:creator>aunty fusker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey grimble, when you come over here next, take that unfunny moron Stewart Lee with you?

you could strap him to one of those outside lavs that they have. Then at least everybody could have a laugh when they pissed on him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey grimble, when you come over here next, take that unfunny moron Stewart Lee with you?</p>
<p>you could strap him to one of those outside lavs that they have. Then at least everybody could have a laugh when they pissed on him.</p>
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		<title>By: grimble</title>
		<link>http://cupholder.blogs.topgear.com/2009/08/28/all-quiet-on-the-western-front/#comment-10701</link>
		<dc:creator>grimble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s an easy-peasy way to avoid all those pesky motoring fines - buy a car with foreign plates. I moved to France and had to convert to French plates. Going back to the UK is now a joy - I&#039;m sitting here looking at a nice souvenir of London: a Lambeth Council penalty charge notice stuck to my screen a year ago and never chased up. In the last year I&#039;ve also been flashed by a speed camera on the A303 and have spent a couple of hours in the Congestion Charge zone without paying (I actually thought the western extension had already gone, otherwise I would have paid).
There&#039;s no road tax in France, MOT is once every 2 years beyond the first 4 years, and insurance is lower than the UK (and includes a free 365-day/year &#039;green card&#039; cover for the rest of the EU). Think I&#039;ll just go and get ratted on some £2.99 Beaujolais now..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an easy-peasy way to avoid all those pesky motoring fines &#8211; buy a car with foreign plates. I moved to France and had to convert to French plates. Going back to the UK is now a joy &#8211; I&#8217;m sitting here looking at a nice souvenir of London: a Lambeth Council penalty charge notice stuck to my screen a year ago and never chased up. In the last year I&#8217;ve also been flashed by a speed camera on the A303 and have spent a couple of hours in the Congestion Charge zone without paying (I actually thought the western extension had already gone, otherwise I would have paid).<br />
There&#8217;s no road tax in France, MOT is once every 2 years beyond the first 4 years, and insurance is lower than the UK (and includes a free 365-day/year &#8216;green card&#8217; cover for the rest of the EU). Think I&#8217;ll just go and get ratted on some £2.99 Beaujolais now..</p>
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		<title>By: David Clark</title>
		<link>http://cupholder.blogs.topgear.com/2009/08/28/all-quiet-on-the-western-front/#comment-10694</link>
		<dc:creator>David Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scotty, calm down, you will have a heart attack.  So the charge IS necessary?  80% of which makes private firms rich.  When I say private firms, obviously I mean firms which Red Ken has shares in.  (The Crook!).

Cars are damaging the environment, you say.  DOn&#039;t believe what you hear.  If every car on the planet never drove ever again, how much less CO2 would be produced on earth?  Do you know?  Shall I tell you?  About 0.000000000000000000000000001%.  In fact less than that, I got bored with the zeros.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scotty, calm down, you will have a heart attack.  So the charge IS necessary?  80% of which makes private firms rich.  When I say private firms, obviously I mean firms which Red Ken has shares in.  (The Crook!).</p>
<p>Cars are damaging the environment, you say.  DOn&#8217;t believe what you hear.  If every car on the planet never drove ever again, how much less CO2 would be produced on earth?  Do you know?  Shall I tell you?  About 0.00000000000000000000000 0001%.  In fact less than that, I got bored with the zeros.</p>
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